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Where Will I Find A Job??


DrD

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Where Will I Find A Job??

As I read over the questions that readers post here on ME Forum and elsewhere, I sense a common theme in many of them. There seems to be a wide, dare I say almost universal, concern about where those currently in college will find employment after graduation. To a degree this is entirely understandable; we all wonder what is in our future. Even so, the level of anxiety that I sense in many of your postings strikes me as extraordinarily high. Let us consider this a bit.

Most readers of ME Forum are currently enrolled in an engineering curriculum somewhere. Some are just beginning while others are nearing the end of their undergraduate education. I would like to pose a question to all of you: Why did you go to engineering school? Why did you choose what is probably one of the most difficult curricula in any college? For the sake of this article, I'm going to presume that I have heard at least some of your answers.

It is almost universal among engineering students to be looking forward to a good job, one that will provide them a comfortable living and a substantial measure of security. This is not at all unreasonable, and is in fact entirely probable. Almost all of you can expect to be well employed and in the upper echelons of society wherever you live. You will not rank as high as the well-known politicians, nor will you be the most wealthy people in the area. But you will have stable work and a comfortable income from that work.

What does it matter where you find employment? One of the themes I see in what I read is a great many people looking for "government jobs," that is, employment with some government entity. Traditionally, "government jobs" have been very stable. As long as a government employee stays out of trouble, in most situations it is impossible to remove that employee from his government job. This feature makes government work extremely attractive to the incompetent, to those who really cannot do the job well and thus rely on the fact that they can almost never be fired. Is this why you struggle with a difficult college curriculum, so that you can be employed with those that are incompetent? Do you really want to spend your working days with people far less capable than yourself? Many of them have achieved their positions without nearly the rigorous education that you are undergoing, so I ask you, are these the ones you want to have for your close associates?

Let me tell you a personal experience. After a long career that involved both academic positions and various industrial research positions (with a few years as a solo consulting engineer), at age 59 I took a position with a research laboratory run by the U.S. Navy. It is a sad fact of life that, in the USA, most people are considered unemployable after age 60, so I was nearing the end of the time when I could look for and expect to find a new position. The job was attractive because it promised an opportunity to do some well funded work in an area I was quite interested in, the area called electro-mechanics. The position would be very stable and I would be well payed.

In my first week on the job, I was given a few documents to read but nothing really to work on. I was not too surprised and expected all that to end very soon. After about three weeks in the new position with still in no work assignment, I began to be very worried. Every place I had worked previously had plenty of work to be done and anyone not given an assignment was probably being set up to be fired. I spoke with my boss about this several times, and he very casually told me not to worry about it. That really did not relieve my concern, particularly when he was so very casual about the whole matter. I tried to find things to work on, to make myself look useful and busy. In conversation with the other engineers, a few problems were suggested, and I worked on some of those. I wrote a few technical notes, primarily just to show that I wasn't simply sitting idle at my desk. Time went by, weeks turned into months, and months turned into years. When I finally retired from that position after seven years, I estimated that I had done at most 18 months of real work. The rest of the time I simply had nothing assigned for me to work on.

Had I realized in the beginning how the game was to be played, I would have spent my days doing things that were much more productive, such as working on problems that I found interesting, writing technical papers on those problems, and probably writing a few books. In the nonproductive 5 1/2 years I had, I could have done a lot of work! But I did not realize how the game was played, and I kept expecting someone to assign to me real engineering work to do.

As I got to know the other people, I found that a few of them had ongoing projects that were of interest to them, but most had nothing to do most of the time. I am convinced that this is the pattern of government employment, the so-called "government job." There were very few people who were truly happy in their work them: most were fairly miserable in fact. But they were wedded to the paycheck and the job security that went with their "government job." They even spoke of these factors as the "golden handcuffs." Most intended to stick it out for a total of 30 years or more, so that they could retire with a good pension.

Now I ask you, the reader, is your primary goal to retire with a good pension? Is this your principal objective in life? If so, why don't you simply roll over and die now?? While it is true that no one wants to retire in poverty, most of your life is long before retirement. Retirement is the end stage of life. I have been fortunate to live almost a decade since I retired, but it is not at all uncommon for men to die within a year or two after retirement. It seems that many simply lose their purpose in life when they retire. So to live your life in preparation for retirement is foolishness of the highest order!

If preparation for retirement is not to be your principal purpose, then what should be your objective? I submit to you that your objective ought to be to find meaningful, rewarding work in the service of other people. I am not suggesting that a group of mechanical engineers become social workers, but I am saying that you should see some connection between your work and the improvement of your society, the people among whom you live. If your work does nothing to help other people, what is its lasting value? The money you bring home in your paycheck will soon be spent. The time you invested to earn that money is already spent. So what are you contributing to mankind?

Rather than looking for a secure, comfy do-nothing "government job," I suggest to you that you should be adventurous, looking for new opportunities and new ways to help others. This is urgently needed everywhere, particularly in developing countries. Look for small startup companies with new ideas for new products, things that will improve life for everyone. Many of these companies will fail, but you are young, and looking for another job after two or three years with the company that fails is no disaster. It will not reflect badly on you if the company fails; that reflects upon the management of the company rather than upon the engineering staff. Look also at very traditional companies that are doing things the way they have always been done. Many of these companies need engineering help if they are to remain competitive and to survive into the future. This may provide you an opportunity to keep an entire company functioning, providing employment for many people. There are countless other ways that we may help our fellow man, but this should always be high in our list of priorities for the work we will do. It is while you are young that you can afford to be adventurous, to take some risks and try out things that later in life will simply be too risky. Look for challenges, situations that will require it to you use everything that you have learned, and also require you to continue to learn.

There is absolutely no point to your engineering education if your goal is simply to doze the next 50 or 60 years before you die. Plan to do something with your life, something useful, something meaningful. Do not look for a place to lay your head and simply sleep away your career.

 

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Bernard Koech

it is a little word that goes along way and sink back to the deep end of our thoughts. I have been growing trying to understand the best way or mode to play the game, here you write one of the tips I should grasp and off to the future tomorrow I walk into with it. At least some reason to convince my thoughts of the truth. Thank you a lot.

 

Mutea Alshara

Thanks.
I think you put your finger in my problem.
More than thanx

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Dear Anurag,

It is vitally important for engineers to keep on learning throughout their lives. If you are looking for a job, you need to spend some time simply searching, but there is usually a lot of down time. It is wise to spend that down time learning something new. It is particularly helpful to try to learn about a new industry/new technology that you think may help you to market yourself.

Good Luck!

DrD

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This is again a great piece of writing.

Yes its true that government jobs are laid back jobs, that gives security and being stress free but at the same time it is also difficult to grab one. Even if we get one on merit basis, there is no career growth and it would certainly be a very bad choice for a curious mind.

But you mentioned to contribute something to society. So in developing countries, is it possible that we contribute and be of service to our country or atleast a particular region, without being in a government job? And also is it possible to change a defective system without being a part of it?

A country like India has majority if its population in rural areas with agriculture and animal husbandry forming the occupation in majority. Most of these rural areas even lack the basic amenities like electricity and water supply. This is where technology workforce can come into picture. Something definitely to ponder on!

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Umama said, "So in developing countries, is it possible that we contribute and be of service to our country or at least a particular region, without being in a government job? And also is it possible to change a defective system without being a part of it?"

I suggest to you that being a part of such a defective system is the last way to improve the situation. It simply makes you one more cog in the machine that grinds on, with no means to change the whole machine. If you want to change the system, you must be outside of the system where you are not constrained by the system.

Government, even the best of governments, are slow, ponderous, and horribly inefficient beasts. A government has many, many constituencies, groups that want their piece of the pie. When you have to please everyone, it is impossible to get anything done because you can never please everyone.

Private industries, in which individuals risk their own capital and effort with the hope of a good return, are far more effective at bringing about change. They can do whatever they think best (within the law), and if they fail, then they fail. But if they succeed, they grow and provide a return to those who invested and jobs for countless other people.

In a country like India, with a large part of the population devoted to agriculture and animal husbandry, surely there are countless opportunities to make improvements. Agricultural productivity goes up if you find ways to introduce mechanization, and the same with animal husbandry. Do conditions there require a specialized type of tractor for farming? Then someone should be developing such a tractor. Or perhaps it is a plow, or a harvester, fertilizer spreader, weed control sprayer, etc. All of these things require engineering development. When cows are milked by hand, the work is extremely labor intensive, but the amount of labor required goes down dramatically with milking machines (more engineering required).

Let me cite some statistics for you. In the year 1900, something like 90 to 95% of the US population lived on farms and was engaged in agriculture. Today, about 3% of the US population farms. The amount of land has not changed, but mechanization has made whole changes. There is more food produced today than ever before. Why could the same thing not happen in India, or any other country? It only takes individuals, willing to work and to risk their security, to make this happen.

I see the developing nations as lands of huge opportunity, if only people will over come their fears and set out in confidence to build a better future.

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There is absolutely no point to your engineering education if your goal is simply to doze the next 50 or 60 years before you die. Plan to do something with your life, something useful, something meaningful. Do not look for a place to lay your head and simply sleep away your career.
That True @DrD

Thanks 

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Sir  I am fresh graduate and facing the same situation as you described. .but the problem is that most of industries in pakistan prefer to give a job to a experienced person not the fresh graduates. So if you don't have a platform how can you do something useful???

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Well, there are always some options, even if they are not what you really want most.

1. You could going into your country's military where you will find work as an engineer and gain experience.

2. You can try to immigrate to another country where there is employment.

3. You can come up with a business idea and start your own business.

All of these involve some risk and a whole lot of effort. But, that is why you are young and energetic; now is the time to step out boldly and do something different. If you are a good engineer, there must be something of value that you can do. Just go find it, and be prepared to work very hard and face a lot of uncertainty.

DrD

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Dear Sir/Madam,

 

I am an Engineering professional with over 3 years of core industrial experience in concept Design, CAE and cross functional interaction etc. and ready to learn, adopt new skill set required to accomplish job. I hold Master of Technology with Machine Design specialization and B.E. in Mechanical Engineering. Have rich hands Industrial experience of R & D at L&T Hydrocarbon, Mumbai and Cummins Research& Technology India, Pune.

My vision is to emerge as a unique and innovative team player, generate innovative ideas, utilize all my knowledge and make significant contribution for achieving the goals of the Organization.

The attached resume gives details of my experience and abilities. In case my profile is of interest to you, I would request an interview opportunity to explore mutual suitability.

Thanking you in anticipation of a favorable reply.

 I am ready to relocate to workplace as per requirements.

 
References:
Mr.Raviraj. Deshpande, Technology Specialist Senior, CRTI(ravideshpande1983@yahoo.com)

Mr.Sagar Rudrabhate, Technology Specialist, Cummins Tech.Center India.(sagar.rudrabhate@gmail.com)
Mr.Srikant Inje: Head,Mechanical Engineering Group(PRDH),R&D,L&T,Powai,Mumbai.(sbi@larsentoubro.com)
 

Yours Sincerely,

Swapnil Bharat Marwadi
+91-9870577687/8080508557

sbmarwadi@yahoo.com

CV_Swapnil B Marwadi LH10Dec.pdf

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Dear sir,

I really inspired with your post.

But when its come to me. I m very consused with my career.

I will appreciate u if u guide me.

 

Let me tell you my situation.

In the Final year graduation I had visited Automotive company.

Their work style. I also met the people wo worked in Automotive designing field.

My elder brother also work on the same.

So that I decided to make my career In the field of designing(CAD).

I learned Designing software like Auto Cad, Catia, Ansys,Pro E etc.

After completion of my graduation I came to Pune For Job.

Ther is lot of Rush I didn’t get the chance to start my career.

The preffer only experienced candidate. 

It almost 5 months over but I didn’t get any job.

I was really disappointed. 

Day by day time passed and I forget these software due to regular work on that.

Due to financial problem Finally i decided to join any field.

And i joined a Die Manufacturing Workshop As a Quality Person.

And I had worked over the  1 year 6 months.

Because I m not satisfied with the job.

The i tried For Government job (6 Months) But I failed.

Again i decided to make my career in Product designing Useing catia software.

And I  re- learn Catia Software by self practice.

I practice relularly 2 months and i got grip on this.

But Industrial design software experience is important.

I faced some interview But i failed Due to Industrial designing experience.

Some Institute Provide 6 Month training in the field of industrial designing

But it cost  Rs 70,000 That is too high for me.

It almost 8 months over As a job less.

So again I Disappointed and frustrated.

One of my friend suggest me For Gulf opportunity.

I thought I need to Try. 

So I went to Mumbai I Saw there are lot of Rush Over there In office.

And they preffer  candidate who have More than 5 Years experience Or Gulf Returner experience.

But still trying and looking forward for opportunity For 2 year experience people.

Bcause  My 3 friend went to Gulf  Only They have 1 year experience.

Yesterday I went to Mumbai (Andheri) For HVAC Engineer I submitted my Form and Resume.

I was waiting for the interview of 8 Hours.

When I got the chance They said We preffer more than 5 Years experience candidate.

I tried 6 times but didn’t face any Client interview.

I am really confused what i need to do. Pl. Help me.

Waiting with hope for your reply.

You can also contact me :

+91 7276770230

 
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Sadly, I have no easy answer for you.

I suggest you sit down and make a very careful, honest appraisal of your situation -- what you have to offer in terms of skills and experience. Be completely honest about this.

Also make a list of all potential contacts you have that might help you. You mentioned an elder brother in the automotive industry; he should be one of those on the list.

I suggest that you then write to each of your contacts, asking for help in obtaining employment and expressing a willingness to take any sort of job. Then, if any opportunity comes along, take it. You can work your way up after you get into the company, but you must get a start with them.

Good luck!

DrD

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